It's happening

During the Cold War in Romania, every so often your telephone would ring -- if you were lucky enough to be allowed to have a phone. There would be no answer on the other end, so you would naturally hang up. But "the other end" would continue to listen to ambient noise and conversations taking place in your house. It was the "Securitatea," the Secret Communist Police of Romania.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I see troubling trends here in the U.S., trends heading in the same direction as the Romanian Communists.

The NSA is now fearlessly intercepting and reading e-mail messages of U.S. citizens - interestingly, Google appears to be part of the problem as well - EFF has been involved in a lawsuit against AT&T's spying activities for over a year - and pictures of AT&T/NSA spying equipment were taken and posted online here. Other reports have come out suggesting they also monitor telephone conversation taking place within the borders of the U.S.; both these activities are illegal and unconstitutional yet they are taking place.

This can no longer be considered a conspiracy theory - it is becoming a reality, and it appears to have been a reality for a while now. If our government is indeed carrying out mass-surveillance on its citizens, we have lost any hope of freedom in our society. A government doing this is a government out of control and out TO control.

I wish that out of principle alone all citizens would buy a copy of PGP and start encrypting all their email communication. What a message to the NSA that would be.


16 Apr, 2009 | Virgil
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by chrisliv - 16 Apr, 2009 - 12:32:28
Yeah,

There are free search engines, that, unlike Google, don't record search data for the State.

One is CUIL, pronounced like "cool".

http://www.cuil.com

There are others, too.

Peace to you all,
C. Livingstone

by Virgil - 16 Apr, 2009 - 18:57:30
Chris I don't even think the issue is as much a search engine like Google saving your search results. The problem seems to be much bigger than that, i.e. the NSA installing/co-locating equipment with internet service providers and intercepting traffic in real time. The pictures I linked to above to AT&T's facilities are fascinating. The employee has been fired since but the lawsuit is still on - do some reading on it and you'll see how it all works: AT&T gets paid huge sums of taxpayer dollars in exchange for letting government eyes look into their network.

by chrisliv - 16 Apr, 2009 - 19:32:05
Yeah,

I was just offering one little privacy-enhancing tip, like you did with the PGP tip.

With the mantle of world's supreme super-power momentarily resting in the District of Columbia, and with the revenue streams of taxes taking a dive in North America, it seems predictable that the nature of the State will become more obvious, totalitarian, and paranoid (for good reason).

Peace to you,
C. Livingstone

by Windpressor - 17 Apr, 2009 - 04:25:25
Letterman's Top Ten Apr 16, 09:

Top Ten Signs The Government Is Spying On You --

10. Your kitty has a satellite dish
on his head

9. At restaurant waiter urges,
"Speak directly into the dinner rolls"

8. Your car's GPS unit has an awful
lot of questions

7. "Girl Scout" delivering your thin mints
is 6'4, 270

6. Keep finding underpants labeled
"Agent Morales"

5-1 ==>> http://lateshow.cbs.com/lat...

by middleknowledge - 17 Apr, 2009 - 10:08:18
http://www.lewrockwell.com/...

Tim Martin

by Virgil - 17 Apr, 2009 - 10:42:37
Windpressor, that's very funny...hehe.

Tim, I just watched that video - unbelievable! Assuming the guy is not making up stuff (I can't imagine why he would do that), it is amazing that this is happening in this country.

by Stephen Greer - 17 Apr, 2009 - 13:19:15
I don't think the problem is the government; it's the people. If they really didn't like what was going on, then they'd do something about it. I mean, the fact that any of this information is available indicates to me that it's not a "dark secret." If the government didn't want anyone to know, they could easily block websites, gag the media, etc. But they don't. The citizens of the US really don't care about it. That's why all this stuff happens, in my opinion at least.

by Jer - 17 Apr, 2009 - 13:27:20
It would be a mistake to say, "The citizens of the US really don't care..." There were 12,000-15,000 people on the Statehouse lawn in my state on the 15th. People can put up with a lot before a revolution occurs...


Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.


by Windpressor - 17 Apr, 2009 - 14:07:55
Guys,

For other take on the vid, check my other favorite reading sites --

http://billstclair.com/blog...
[link is there for the pastor's site with pleas for defense fund donations]

Larken Rose's Take has good analysis --

http://www.larkenrose.com/t...
[This is Rose's new blog site with lots of archive from previous writings and list mails. I respect that time and focus limit study depth. I have found the reads well worth it.]

by Windpressor - 17 Apr, 2009 - 14:45:29
Yep,

Memory serves.

This pastor is same as referenced in my blog --
http://blog.planetpreterist...

see the YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sorry about the irony of where to whiz ...

by Virgil - 17 Apr, 2009 - 18:11:30
Okay, after watching some of the guy's sermons and other videos on his YouTube page I am giving him a a lot less credence now.

He seems to have been egging on the border patrol guys for a while; he is also being very rude to an agent in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sometimes even if you are right, the way you communicate with other people will not sustain your argument.

by middleknowledge - 17 Apr, 2009 - 18:44:35
Jer,

I was going to ask you if you went to a Tea Party last Wed. I take it things went well?

Thinks went well here, too.

Tim Martin
http://www.BeyondCreationSc...

by Jer - 17 Apr, 2009 - 19:57:29
Yep, things went well...very peaceful and very encouraging. The local news vastly unreported the number in attendance.

Found the following two organizations as a result:

http://www.ourcaucus.com/

http://www.lpin.org/

If we work hard enough, maybe we won't have to pay rent for the Colts :|

http://rtv6blogs.com/rtv6_c...

by Windpressor - 18 Apr, 2009 - 04:02:20
Re: Virg on "... less credence ..."

Yeah, there just might be a clash between my views and some of this guy's attitude, theology and methodology for standing up to badge and gavel thuggery.
I may even have to reconsider my vote for him as the poster boy for effective Jedi mind tricks

Re: "... he is also being very rude to an agent ..."

Must be an eye of beholder thing ...
The one insisting on one's rights against opposition isn't necessarily where the rudeness resides.

From the "response to" link bellow the vid --
Excerpt from the info notes:
After close to eight minutes of being unlawfully detained, a Border Patrol supervisor eventually arrives on-scene and wastes no time in telling me that I'm free to go with no further scrutiny.

Given the circumstances surrounding this extended non-detention, the only reasonable explanation that can be attributed to the agent's behavior is a desire to train the traveling public to be obedient to the whims of any federal agent with a shiny badge & a gun.

For those of you who actually think the government cares about the border, how many illegal aliens do you think crossed unchallenged 40 miles to the South because three Border Patrol agents were harassing Americans 40 miles to the North at a suspicionless checkpoint?


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