Guns save lives

On April 17 I asked the question Why? about the massacre that took place when a crazed killer killed 32 students at Virginia Tech. I concluded that the answer to why did this happen was "because no guns were allowed on campus."

Contrast that scenario with the recent shooting at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where an armed security guard stopped another wacko bent on mass murder in his tracks. Jeanne Assam serves as a security volunteer for the church and she shot the murderer immediately after he entered the building, after he killed two people in the parking lot. His backpack had about 1,000 rounds of ammo in it and he could have easily killed hundreds of people if Jeanne was not there to stop him.

There is an article here about Jeanne's heroic story and the latest example of how guns save lives. Do not however count on the liberals to admit this any time soon as they will continue their anti-gun propaganda whenever a tragedy happens.




10 Dec, 2007 | Virgil
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by middleknowledge - 10 Dec, 2007 - 20:53:33
I was wondering when someone would post this...

Thanks, Virgil,

Yes, Guns save lives!

Blessings,

Tim Martin
http://www.truthinliving.org

by DavidF - 10 Dec, 2007 - 21:07:24
The visuals say it all Virgil! Thanks for the good journalism!

by davo - 10 Dec, 2007 - 21:29:03
"Guns save lives!" dang... and here I was thinking Jesus saves... ;)

by Virgil - 10 Dec, 2007 - 21:32:31
Jesus saves...Pat Robertson withdraws.

by Windpressor - 11 Dec, 2007 - 02:18:35
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I caught a bit of Robertson on today's 700 Club.
He advocated for armament by Christians.
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For some really good reading on RKBA and Libertarian issues check out:
End the War on Freedom | Links and Commentary from my Crypto-Anarcho-Libertarian Perspective --

http://billstclair.com/blog...

I found the site when I was looking for Claire Wolfe's blog and other web postings. She allowed her sites to lapse.
Bill St. Clair has her stuff archived.

He also links to and quotes from,
"Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership" --
http://www.jpfo.org/

So much good stuff that I am currently so thought-bound that I am finding it hard to settle on or summarize a selection for a blog post.
Maybe I'll pick a few really good select quotes.

...............

by middleknowledge - 11 Dec, 2007 - 10:48:39
Davo,

Guns save lives.

Like "Doctors save lives,"
Like "Seat belts save lives,"
Like "Helmets save lives,"
etc.

They are all tools to use when living in God's world that is inherently dangerous.

The world is not tame nor safe because God is not inherently tame nor safe. Welcome to the real world God made as a reflection of his character and nature,

Tim Martin
http://www.truthinliving.org

by Virgil - 11 Dec, 2007 - 11:37:57
Tim, that's a good answer. I guess the ultimate problem is not with the "tool" doing the killing but with one's heart. After all you can kill someone else with your bare hands if you are so inclined.

by Chris L - 12 Dec, 2007 - 16:17:55
Virgil - please contact me at lyons8804@NOSPAMearthlink.net (removing the NOSPAM) re: the wiki article and a couple of other items.

Blessings,

Chris

by davo - 12 Dec, 2007 - 20:41:22
middleknowledge: The world is not tame nor safe because God is not inherently tame nor safe. Welcome to the real world God made as a reflection of his character and nature,

Tim… no doubt many do hold to your image of an unstable and volitile God – I'm not one of them. Certainly with such a view some might feel justified in seeing God as "inherantly" evil – again, I'm not one of them.

by Jl - 12 Dec, 2007 - 21:23:26
C.S. Lewis wrote a famous line at the end of his book titled The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. Note how Lewis’ conception of the lion Aslan in his story relates to the Genesis debate. Mr. Beaver tells the children:

“He’ll be coming and going,” he had said. “One day you’ll see him and another you won’t. He doesn’t like being tied down… Only you mustn’t press him. He’s wild, you know. Not like a tame lion.”

The ferocity of Aslan is a good thing in the story – for everyone; it is mighty Aslan who kills the wicked White Witch and lifts the icy curse she held over Narnia.
Lewis draws on a biblical metaphor. In his story, Aslan is an allegorical reference to Jesus. Lewis knew that Jesus is compared metaphorically to a lion in various places in the Bible. He is the “Lion of Judah.” But consider the implications if God created vegetarian lions and lions eat red meat only as a result of the fall. If that is the case, the Bible compares Jesus to a fallen creature twisted by the curse! Did God originally make toothless lions?
To this example of a lion we could add many natural things which are downright dangerous. These things all existed before the fall. There were hurricanes on planet Earth before Adam. There were also avalanches. Meteor impacts, tornados, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions – the magnitude of which we can scarcely imagine – wiped out much life on planet Earth millions of years before Adam was on the scene. That is not even considering the interstellar explosions, each of which outdoes anything that ever happened on earth. These are not bad things. Remember, God created each and every one. He is glorified in them. They exist for a good reason. They teach us a very important lesson. Beware! God!

Beyond Creation Science, 3rd edition, Chapter 12

by davo - 12 Dec, 2007 - 22:20:43
JL… no one disputes this aspect of God's being – but to try and use it carte blanch as Tim did above to the supposed exclusion of all else with regards to God's nature, well that stretches credulity.

by Virgil - 12 Dec, 2007 - 23:13:21
I guess in context of Tim's comment, since the world is a dangerous one, would God have allowed Adam to be accidentally killed?

Tim, what do you think?

by middleknowledge - 13 Dec, 2007 - 10:15:57
Virgil,

Jeff and I have two chapters that revolve around that question in the new book. You'll love them.

Tim Martin
http://www.truthinliving.org

by Jl - 13 Dec, 2007 - 14:03:36
Davo,

Those were Tim's words I quoted. I see no difference with Tim's post above.

Tim said, "God is not inherently tame nor safe," which the longer quote develops.

Tim never said, "seeing God as 'inherantly' evil."

by davo - 13 Dec, 2007 - 17:09:23
Yeah I know... but that is an implication that can be drawn from what Tim said where what he said is given as the only measure of God's nature etc.

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